I've been looking for a post from Mormon Metaphysics to summarize here for commenting. and found these comments on Kierkegaard interesting although the conversation wanders around a bit. Click here for a short summary of Kierkegaard. As the most noted Christian philosopher of the modern era, you would think Kierkegaard would figure in LDS theologizing from time to time, but Mormon thinking pretty much ignores him. He just doesn't seem to click for a Mormon audience, as noted by Clark. Why not? Here are a couple of ideas.
First, I think Kierkegaard's Christian existentialism is quite foreign to the Mormon perspective. Mormons don't see themselves as thrown into a confusing world and choosing a leap of faith to escape despair. Instead, to Mormons the cosmos and the Plan of Salvation are comprehensible; we weren't thown into the world, we voted on it in the Great Council; and faith isn't a leap, it's the predictable and dependable result of applying Moroni's Promise. I know that's overly simplistic, but it captures the disconnect: what Kierkegaard thought were big issues aren't preceived as problems by an LDS reader or thinker.
Second, Mormonism is nothing if not upbeat and optimistic, whereas existentialism and Kierkegaard tend to be incurably downbeat and depressing. Being happy is so important to Mormons that depression is often regarded as something akin to a sin rather than as a medical condition or mental malady. Don't worry, be happy is our unofficial motto (dressed up in fancier language, of course: "Man is that he might have joy."). So Kierkegaard's focus on downbeat concepts like anxiety, despair, dread, and melancholy just doesn't resonate with a Mormon audience, even though he wraps it in Christian images and vocabulary. Imagine hearing a Conference talk entitled "The Blessings of Anxiety" or "Melancholy Motherhood" or "Dread Preceeds the Miracle." Nope, won't happen.
Anyone have any other ideas? Has anyone actually finished one of Kierkegaard's books? I've gotten halfway through two or three, then kind of lost interest and found something a little cheerier to read.



Despite 9 years of a philosophy education, I have yet to read Kierkagaard. I'm rather embarassed about it but I've been schooled by some militant anglo-analytic departments who didn't spend time on spooky things like existentialism.
I want to be the first mormon to give a talk on the blessings of severe depression comorbid with anxiety! If they ever ask me to talk again I think I will. :) I heard that women in Utah have the highest rate of prescriptions for anti-depressants. Kierkagaard might be more relevant to the LDS than we'd like to pretend.
Posted by: JL | May 17, 2004 at 11:44 PM
I'm anything but knowledgeable on Kierkegaard, despite being the source for the link. But I think he distinguishes between what he calls a "knight of faith" and a "knight of remorse" which thereby deals quite differently with the notion of despair. It's important to realize that when he writes under a pseudonym he is often adopting a personae who can't understand faith. In a sense it is those unable to take the leap of faith who are doomed to depression and despair of the sort you mention.
As to whether that ought to apply to LDS society, that's more problematic. I do think that many people try do *do* perfection on their own, never admitting to themselves the impossibility of this. Yet without faith this conflict between the possible and the impossible inevitably leads to despair. Kierkegaard's solution is the leap of faith where the impossible becomes possible and then those problems (in his eyes) aren't problems.
Posted by: Clark Goble | May 18, 2004 at 12:12 PM
Thus to him the difference between the stereotypical relief society women filled with (and often repressing) despair arises because they do not yet have real faith. They are, in his taxonomy, knights of remorse and not knights of faith. In a way there is a lot that probably is relevant of that view - although for reasons I won't go into (because I'm not sure they are right) I'm not sure Kierkegaard's solution is correct.
Posted by: Clark Goble | May 18, 2004 at 12:15 PM
If I remember correctly, Madsen talks about "K" fairly often. Maybe in his new book (out by Christmas) it will discuss 'K' more? i'll try to find out.
Posted by: lyle | May 18, 2004 at 04:48 PM
Dave Paulsen, a philosophy professor at BYU, teaches Kierkegaard and wrote a paper for the SMPT conference called "Soren Kierkegaard and Joseph Smith: What Does It Mean to be a Christian?" Anybody attend or get the paper?
Terry Warner (BYU Phil./Psych. professor) also relies on Kierkegaard quite a bit, as I recall, but more for his psychology than theology.
Posted by: Greg | May 18, 2004 at 07:42 PM
Several others over at LDS_Phil have brought him up fairly frequently too. As I said, I fear my knowledge of him is very poor. So don't take anything I say as indicating too much. Most of it comes from those lectures from Berkeley I downloaded and have been listening to at the gym.
Posted by: Clark Goble | May 18, 2004 at 08:28 PM
Yes, I found the program posted at the SMPT site that has a Paulsen talk or paper on Kierkegaard and Joseph Smith noted, but no links to any paper or even a synopsis. Did anyone even post notes on the conference? I know several Bloggernackers attended, just don't know which ones.
Posted by: Dave | May 18, 2004 at 11:57 PM
In answer to your question, Dave, I did actually "read" (as in look at every word) all of Fear and Trembling when I was about 13. Needless to say, I didn't get it. But your post has inspired me to try again. I'm thinking that the fact that my father loves Kierkegaard, that he is one of maybe 3 or 4 philosophers represented in the hundreds of shelf-feet of my parents' library might explain a few things about why Mormons (well, yeah, everyone else, too) think I'm weird :)
Posted by: Kristine | May 20, 2004 at 02:50 PM
An anecdote: When I was enjoying my one brief year at BYU, a friend and I noticed the striking similarity between the picture of Kierkegaard on the paperback editions of his works and the bust of Joseph Smith in the Honors building. So my friend made an alternate plaque that said "Soren Kierkegaard," placed it on the bust, and left a little offering of parsley, if I remember correctly.
A thought experiment: Someone might ponder the Mormon belief that the prophet would never lead the faithful astray while reading "Fear and Trembling," which is about Abraham's willingness to sacrifice Isaac. I once asked a Gospel Doctrine class to interpret the Old Testament passages in which the Israelites were instructed to kill every man, woman, and child in Canaan, alarmed by the thought that genocide could ever be considered a divine instruction. The responses in the class led me to think that I was the only one bothered by the idea. Kierkegaard would have given me a bit more to chew on, if I had known about him at the time.
Posted by: Philocrites | May 27, 2004 at 10:06 AM