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Thanks for the write-up, Dave. I think the consensus is that this was the best debate, with the best moderator.

Dave, I couldn't bear to watch this debate, so I have been reading some recaps, and this was the best one so far. Thanks for this.

Geoff,

I think you have to watch the debate as the demeanor and facial expressions portray (what I believe to be) significant aspects of their character.

i think this photo best describes the debate

http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//081016/ids_photos_ts/r1772410910.jpg/

Dave,

My favorite debate issue was Joe the Plumber. It was difficult to listen to anything else. Both of the candidate seem to be wrapped in a fabric of lies and subterfuge. Why can't a political campaign just represent the truth, and let voters decide on the merits?

Yeah, the media is really picking up on Joe the Plumber. It's sort of classy how he refuses to endorse a candidate or say who he's going to vote for. The GOP ought to send Todd Palin over to have a couple of beers and invite Joe up for some snowmobiling. As goes Joe, so goes America.

"It's sort of classy how he refuses to endorse a candidate or say who he's going to vote for."

Huh? He's even more obvious than you.

If you don't like Joe the Plumber, you're just a tough guy to please, narrator. Do you like anyone besides Obama, Wittgenstein, and maybe Che Guevara?

I've got nothing against Joe the Plumber, besides that he wasn't paying his taxes. I'm glad that the Obama economic plan will actually help his new company get off the ground (he admittedly probably won't be making over $250,000 for a while).

I also like lot's of people. Such as my girlfriend, my family, my roommate Jordan, my bishop, Pres. Monson and pals in Salt Lake, Marlin K. Jensen, Richard Bushman who I am studying with right now, pre-GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney, my profs at UVSC, that 'Hey Vern' guy, Friedrich Nietzsche, Albert Camus, Chuck Palahniuk, Cormac McCarthy, Saul Williams, Stephen Colbert, Jon Stewart, Robert Jordan, Thomas D. Fitzgerald, D.Z Phillips, Darren Aronofsky, Trent Reznor, Sufjan Stevens, BH Roberts, Eugene England, Lowell Benion, Bob Millet, Hugh Nibley, John Dominic Crosson, Marcus Borg, NT Wright, John Sanders, Bell Hooks, Simone de Bouvoir, Jack Johnson, Deion Sanders, Darren Williams, Trey Parker, Armand Mauss, Jim Faulkener, Adam Miller, Jaques Derrida, Socrates, D. Michael Quinn, Jesus, Orson Pratt, Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, Hugh B Brown, Bart Ehrman, Stanley Hauerwas, Jean-Paul Sartre, David Fincher, Tim Burton, Fyodor Dostoevsky, Franz Kafka, Sterling McMurrin, David Paulsen, my good friend Jack Jared Waters, Jack Johnson, Margaret Toscano, Grimace (that purple guy), whoever created string cheese, Bill Watterson, Alyosha Karamazov (though I acknowledge his isn't a real person), Dennis Potter, Brian Birch, Boyd Peterson, that guy who stood in front of the tank in Tienanmen Square, Ralph Waldo Emerson, James Talmage, Joe Biden, David O. McKay, Ammon, Samuel the Lamanite, King Benjamin, Irshad Manji, Sister Helen Prejean, W.V.O. Quine, Zach de la Rocca, and you.

That's all that is on the top of my head.

I really don't know much about Che Guevara. I'm guessing you just threw that in as an attempt to categorize me. Though I must admit his portrayal in the film Motorcycle Diaries had me tear up - you know, the part when he swims across the water to be with the sick.

Deion Sanders?

Yes. Prime time. Neon Deion. The best cornerback to ever play the position.

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