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I suppose I could figure Huey Long out if I felt like it. I'm just not that into it.

But the infomercial was really a home run I thought. Enough to reassure the majority of Americans who already lean toward Obama that he is indeed the right man for the job and probably enough to sway some undecideds his way too (if for nothing else because it didn't attack anyone...) I'm pretty sure it won't have much affect on the Dave's and Sean Hannity's on the world. (And Mormonism is sadly chock full o' folks who mirror Sean Hannity's political views)

Are you serious? Huey Long?

Dave: After the election, you seriously need some time away.

Even most of the conservative pundits on TV last night were saying that the TV spot was a likely home run for the Obama campaign. I'm glad we have objective reporters like you, Dave, to see through the lies and bring us blind folks the truth.

I think it's obvious who needs to do more reading. If you think returning to Clinton-era tax rates is somehow similar to Huey Long's proposals you may be beyond help. It's increasingly difficult to take seriously anything you say.

Well, at least you haven't stooped to calling me a bad Mormon for having voted Obama as some others have.

Yup. Mine is still another Obama vote, hoping to in part atone for my two GWB votes. If that's possible. I worry it may not be.

Ardis, it's not the worst reason I've heard to vote for Obama.

BHodges, if socialists can make good Mormons (I mean the real card-carrying socialists in Europe), so can Obama voters. I would never question a person's LDS credentials on the basis of politics.

Fine, if Obama wins I'll pull the plug. I imagine building a bomb shelter out back will take up most of my free time anyway.

Well Dave, when this is all over you can just claim that you were in an extended online Halloween costume playing the part of Dave Limbaugh...

I find it interesting that otherwise intelligent people fall for the governmental share the wealth programs, which actually always turn out to be share the misery programs. Haven't we tried this all before during FDR and again with LBJ? When will enough be enough (we've spent 3 trillion on the war on poverty, will it ever end)? When did one of the seven deadly sins ever form the base for good government policy (that being envy)? Envy is never satiated, it will always move on to something else.

While not questioning anyone's discipleship, I do wonder if politics is the last vestige of the rebel or at least those who feel the need to stand apart from the group.

I think we would all welcome a society where no class distinctions exist but it is only attainable via voluntary means, not through force.

Dave, Huey Long clearly had totalitarian tendencies. Saying Obama is like that is just plain silly.

I've now talked to two previously undecided voters who have, because of the infomercial, decided to vote for Obama.

I give complete credit to the Faithful Dissident, who found this on Messenger Magazine, but on the topic of redistribution of wealth, check out the First Presidency "Proclamation on the Economy." It states in part: "The experience of mankind has shown that the people of communities and nations among whom wealth is the most equally distributed, enjoy the largest degree of liberty, are the least exposed to tyranny and oppression and suffer the least from luxurious habits which beget vice." You can find the rest at

http://mormonmessenger.org/2005/a-proclamation-on-the-economyby-the-first-presidency-and-quorum-of-twelve-july-1875

or at

http://thefaithfuldissident.blogspot.com/2008/10/ezra-taft-benson-vs-democratic.html

It warms my Mormon Democrat heart. I was born at the wrong time.

Subsequent research shows that the "Proclamation on the Economy" is actually an edited and retitled version of a First Presidency message. It still warms my heart.

I imagine building a bomb shelter out back will take up most of my free time anyway.

Further evidence that conservatives missed the fact that the Cold War ended two decades ago. Maybe they think all the news stories reporting the fall of the USSR were just fabications of the biased media?

Here's something interesting on media bias:

http://www.ldsmag.com/ideas/081017light.html

Thank you for the link, Jack, which is to a piece by Orson Scott Card titled "Would the Last Honest Reporter Please Turn On the Lights?" But I don't think mere journalism can overcome The Infomercial at this point. What can one say about an election year in which Al Franken may be the next senator from Minnesota?

Dave,

What can one say about an election year in which Al Franken may be the next senator from Minnesota?

Uh...

[Dr. Emmett Brown is doubting Marty McFly's story about that he is from the future] Dr. Emmett Brown: Then tell me, "Future Boy", who's President in the United States in 1985? Marty McFly: Ronald Reagan. Dr. Emmett Brown: Ronald Reagan? The actor? [chuckles in disbelief] Dr. Emmett Brown: Then who's VICE-President? Jerry Lewis? [rushing out and down a hill toward his laboratory] Dr. Emmett Brown: I suppose Jane Wyman is the First Lady! Marty McFly: [following Doc] Whoa! Wait! Doc! Dr. Emmett Brown: And Jack Benny is Secretary of the Treasury.

Too easy.

You have to remember that Minnesota already had Jesse Ventura as governor so Al Franken is really not that much of a stretch. Remember, too, who is governor of California.

Sure, and Harry Truman was a haberdasher; Jimmy Carter was a peanut farmer. Comedian is a class unto itself, being willing to say anything for a laugh. The antithesis of credibility or character.

Which, I might add, is not a negative reflection on the comedians of the Bloggernacle, etc. It's just that the jump from comedian to politician strains the ability of a responsible electorate to muster the trust voters are supposed to have in their elected officials.

Actually, clowns and court jesters, such as the various "wise fools" in Shakespeare have a long tradition of sometimes being the only ones able to speak uncomfortable truths.

Look at Colbert's performance at the White House press corps dinner. Most people took it much more seriously than anything said by, for instance, Scott McClellan (who is now regretting his willingness to say anything for... I don't know, I doubt his salary made it worthwhile).

Dave,

So you say, based on the man's professional career, that he is not "serious" enough to be a Senator? Surely you realize that Al Franken's gifts at making people laugh, he himself has taken quite seriously. You don't get to his successful position without serious thought. It's not just comedy.

What is the difference between being a comedian and an actor? Why is it okay to take Ronald Reagan seriously but not Al Franken? You think Al Franken doesn't look at the issues seriously?

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