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interesting. I'd love to see your talk from SMPT. two comments on this:

1. Cleon Skousen (unpopular source, I know) claimed a moral influence theory of atonement was taught to him by John Widtsoe, so England may be less of a minority position.

2. There is something deeply provocative in saying the atonement is insufficient. I can't counter it, but it does at the same time knock me over.

I will likely do a post or two at T&S with material from the SMPT paper on vicarious atonement.

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