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I attended this years Pageant, and commented at my site afterwords. The Berean ministry folks were very nice. 'Twas the so-called street preachers that caused me such feelings of grief.

Actually, the LDS Church is being particularly tolerant. As the owners of all the land in question, I believe they could just have all the street preachers arrested for trespassing. There are no sidewalks. There is no public land...at least that I could see. Personally, I think this would be an even better approach.

I can't figure out why someone would travel so far to prove their Jesus is different from our Jesus. Oh well. :)

Dan I agree. But I am proud that our church is willing to "turn the other cheek" if you will, and not lash out at those who wish to protest. They are only hurting themselves in the end.

"...why would they travel so far to prove that their Jesus is different from our Jesus."

Everyone who has been warned needs to warn his neighbor. They are trying to save us from Hell, and to prevent us from leading any more souls to Hell.

Not that I agree or anything. But that's why. Because they want to warn us, so we won't burn in Hell.

I'm with Jenna. I see Jesus more in a church that would withdraw voluntarily from the church association to avoid causing gentiles to stumble than I do in the people who pressured them to leave.

Ann, it's nice that they want to warn people, but I honestly don't think that's the motive all of them have. Some perhaps really are motivated by love, and I'm sure God sees that, but some of them just want te excuse to rail at heretics. I've done street preaching back in my Protestant days (not in any organization, just impromptu), and I can tell you there's a huge rush in it.

Aside, perhaps, for a bit of their aggression and willingness to get into a fight (whereas our boys are counselled not to do that)...what would you guys say is the difference between these preachers and our missionaries?

Is it simply that "we're right and they're not" (which is probably what they're saying, too), or is there something more than that?

The only differences between their goals and ours are of style.

Ann, I tend to agree with your comments, but I think that the style is important, too. I agree with a lot of the things Rush Limbaugh says, but I can't stomach him because he simply shows no respect for the other side. I appreciate the Hardy's and Mr. Farakas, because I think they're showing respect.

And while respect doesn't affect the validity of an argument (that would be ad hominem), it does reflect the character of the person spouting. And those spouters don't seem to have the best characters.

Yes, there are some wacky street preachers. But I'm puzzled by Danithew's comment.

"I can't figure out why someone would travel so far to prove their Jesus is different from our Jesus."

Danithew, didn't you travel thousands of miles to do just that? There are tens of thousands of LDS missionaries who are anxiously doing their best to show others that our Jesus is different from theirs. (Even if you discount missionaries sent to non-Christian countries, there still must be tens of thousands who are doing just that).

Nice point, Kaimi--assertive proselyting seems so natural until one is on the receiving end. Plus I think part of the LDS rejection is because it is perceived as "not reverent." Preaching apostate Christianity is, to an LDS, mistaken, but to do so irreverently, that is truly beyond the pale.


I thought of the mission comparison... and yes, I traveled thousands of miles to preach my beliefs to others.

The major difference I see is that I wasn't expressly traveling to stand outside of someone else's church building or production to protest them. The difference to me is very much in the style of preaching that is occurring. I was much less confrontational and aggressive than these types and I wasn't creating tracts that directly criticized a specific denomination or religion.

What gravels me is the Fundamentalist proselytizers out there that "specialize" in attacking one or another specific group that they consider heretical and in the clutches of Satan. Of course, they maintainthat they LOVE Mormons (and Catholics, like me), but they grow really rabid about its every perceived flaw.

Every time some Church leader says something, anything at all, they post a new diatribe on the Internet about how his latest statement is further proof of his true satanic intent. I was just looking at one the other day dedicated to showing those Cath-a-licks the Truth Behind The Church. It featured one photo after another of the Pope with a running comentary on what evil thing he might be saying or doing THIS time. I know there are similar "specialists" who spend their lives scrutinizing the LDS Church for anything they can exploit.

It says something either about these Fundies themselves or about their collective theology that they can obsess so much on finding evil that they forget that they loved God first.

"What gravels me . . ." I love it, great term. Yes, focused preaching does feel like religious stalking, doesn't it? And of course real-life stalkers "love" their targets too, don't they?

However, I'll at least grant ex-Mormons or ex-Catholics a right to focus and dig deeper into their former faiths--they retain the mindset, habits of thought, even morality of their prior faith and I understand why it is important to them to understand it better and even share their reflections. I have more sympathy for an ex, looking back and trying to understand, than for Evangelical stalkers who are, IMHO, possessed of psychological irregularities rather than Christian charity in their habit of broadcasting personalized forms of religious attack ads in print or in person.

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