I don't normally post on politics, but I can't resist this interesting story by a Boston Globe reporter about Mitt Romney, presidential candidate. It focuses on whether Evangelical voters would have a problem with Romney being LDS (the article's subtitle: "Religion could be a hurdle if Romney runs for president"). Not since a Roman Catholic John F. Kennedy ran for president in 1960 has the particular denominational affiliation of a presidential candidate been a real issue, and in Kennedy's case it was a non-issue by election day. So I disagree with the idea suggested by the article that Evangelicals have to "accept" (in some sense) the LDS Church to bring themselves to vote for Romney, should he become a candidate. I think they only have to accept Romney as a candidate or an individual: If they like him, his ideas, and his campaign speeches, they'll give him their vote. If they don't, they won't.
Frankly, if Evangelicals make a stink about Romney being Mormon, it would probably win him votes among the tens of millions of Americans who detest Evangelicals, and when it comes time to actually pull a lever in the voting booth, most Evangelicals would opt for Romney over Hillary Rodham Clinton anyway. So my contrarian opinion is that Evangelical opposition to Romney, should it materialize, might just make him a more appealing candidate rather than cause him problems.
The problem is with the primaries, and not in a contest between Mitt Romney and Hillary Clinton. It is in the primaries that Romney simply will not be able to survive Evangelical bigotry. Check out this editorial for a very good analysis that approximates my view (that it simply can't happen in this country) very well.
Posted by: john fowles | Sep 06, 2005 at 07:31 PM
What you're neglecting Dave is excitement and turnout. One can argue (although it is debatable) that Evangelical fervor over homosexual marriage had a lot to do with Bush winning. It was less who people would choose to vote for than if they actually made it to the election booth. And there some Evangelicals who might have come, might not feel excited enough to come.
Of course unless something happens three years from now, given many of Bush's missteps I think Republicans may find themselves in a situation akin to what Democrats found themselves in after Clinton. I just wish the Democrats could nominate someone half decent. Clinton in '92 was the last one vaguely interesting. Gore was an awful candidate as were everyone last time with the exception of Leiberman.
The Republicans actually have a solid bunch. But there is a lot of baggage due to Bush. Bush has, in certain ways, alienated a lot of Republicans and his attempts to evade responsibility for many bad decisions will eventually come home to roost. Certainly in the mid term elections. And perhaps in 2008. (Although I confess I hope the Middle East turns out - both for the obvious reasons and because I think Condi Rice would make a great President)
Posted by: Clark | Sep 06, 2005 at 08:43 PM
Also, check out the Washington Monthly piece on the subject in your LDS Headlines link. Sadly, the piece is just wrong. It tries to draw an analogy with the AZ governor's race & claim that Salmon's religion cost him evangelical votes. Problem is...the comparison was with the # of votes that ultra "conservatives" like Cong. Flake got. Yes, you guessed it. Flake is also LDS. Duh...
Maybe Washington really is just plain ignorant re: religion & politics.
Posted by: lyle | Sep 06, 2005 at 09:29 PM
I guess it depends on the "Mormon-ness" of the candidate. Mormon and Democrat Senate leader Harry Ried (NV) has had narry a peep about his religion while many
articles have been written about
Romney for a number of months.
In appealing to the religious conservatives in the country and successfully propping them up as their base, the GOP now needs to cater to the Christian fundies more than before, particularly with the narrow margins that they have won with in the past two elections. To cater to their religious biases of the GOP base, the candidate must be of the 'right' brand of Christianity, and we all know the fundies take on Mormonism.
Personally, I think it will hurt him. Here is a good link.
In summary:
Posted by: Darren | Sep 06, 2005 at 09:46 PM
Very interesting. I'm a big fan of your jeremaid directed at evangelical intolerance. Keep it up.
Posted by: Davis Bell | Sep 06, 2005 at 10:49 PM
Back in March there was quite a bit of discussion on this topic on this thread at M*.
Ed Enochs chimed in with a rather strong anti-Mormon-candidate evangelical sentiment. But for some reason I don't feel he represents the feelings of most evangelicals. I hope not.
I too think that most evangelicals would prefer a more conservative Mormon candidate to a liberal candidate. I also think that hearing the evangelical discussion during an election involving a Mormon candidate would be interesting.
Posted by: danithew | Sep 07, 2005 at 07:11 AM
I actually think that Ed Enochs did/does represent the views of most Evangelicals, as unfortunate as that is. At least, he vocalized what I know most of the Evangelicals who lived around me in Dallas growing quietly believe. Most of them are not as rude or offensive as Ed Enochs, or are content to quietly harbor such beliefs, but I think that they do agree with the substance, however bizarre, of what Ed Enochs was saying/doing.
And that is why Mitt Romney simply cannot survive the primaries. If he could survive the primaries, then I think he would be by far the strongest candidate against Hillary Clinton. But the Republican Party will eat him alive in the primaries, because that is where the Evangelicals can assert their greatest influence.
In the Washington Monthly editorial that I linked, the author relates her own experience with Evangelical bigotry toward Latter-day Saints as she was exposed to the Godmakers or some other such calumnous film as a five year old in her Sunday School. I can add my experience in Dallas as evidence that this kind of unbelievable hate really does take place in Evangelical churches. At least a couple of times a year I would have to deal with the aftermath in my high school of hundreds of students having seen the Godmakers at their Wednesday youth group activity at "Fort God" (i.e., their name for the Prestonwood Baptist Church), or after their "Christian" pastor had delivered an anti-Mormon sermon from the pulpit on Sunday.
Posted by: john fowles | Sep 07, 2005 at 10:22 AM
And that is why Mitt Romney simply cannot survive the primaries. If he could survive the primaries, then I think he would be by far the strongest candidate against Hillary Clinton. But the Republican Party will eat him alive in the primaries, because that is where the Evangelicals can assert their greatest influence
Wow, john and I agree. The question is, which one is slipping to the Dark Side?
:-)
Posted by: Darren | Sep 07, 2005 at 01:46 PM
The primaries may be difficult, perhaps. But his conservative views would win over hearts and minds in the primary states' voting booths.
And of course, a Hillary Clinton/Mitt Romney matchup would garner 97% of Republican's votes.
I did know about Orrin Hatch's, but not Harry Reid's religious identity. Very interesting.
Note: They're posting over at getreligion.org on this topic, too.
Posted by: Stephen A. | Sep 07, 2005 at 11:20 PM